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SAA Will Try To Beat Pole-to-Pole Record In Nov.  
User currently offlineLAX From United States, joined Dec 2000, 2290 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 446 times:

Let's see a show of hands (or mouses/mice/meeses).....

How many of you will be on board "Polar Byrd II" (an SAA B744) on November 17 of this year?

It will be an attempt by South African Airways to circumnavigate the Globe, from one pole to the other.....via JFK...Rio Gallegos...Perth...Beijing...then back to JFK.

Estimated time for this amazing excursion is 51 hrs., 11 minutes.

Current record is 54 hrs., 7 min., 12 seconds ....... by a Pan Am Boeing 747SP aircraft.

It'll only cost you a mere $14,495 (US) for a "Premium 1st Class" ticket. These seats feature a fully-reclining sleeper bed.

If you insist upon being a cheapskate, you can go Economy, for a paltry $7,495 (US)! With this ticket, you get 1 meal and 1 snack (but headphones are extra).  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

This info has been on the back cover of "Airways" magazine for the last several issues.

Sounds exciting! I hope they break the record! SAA says they'll break it by 3 hours! So, they've got a little breathing room for some delays.

Who thinks they'll break it??

You'll be travelling for 51 hours on a beauty just like one of these..........................................

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GO SAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up


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User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 379 times:

I shan't be aboard, I'm sad to say......

I do wonder how many aircrew are being rostered for the journey though......51 hours on an a/c......wow!

CP

User currently offlineLAX From United States, joined Dec 2000, 2290 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 367 times:

GOOD POINT, PICARD!!

I wonder, too!

Several crews will be needed I imagine.

Wouldn't you LOVE to sign up as a pilot on this epic journey??

(TALK ABOUT JET-LAG!!)  Nuts

User currently offlineRyaneverest From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 363 times:

Which aircraft will be flying that flight?

User currently offlineLAX From United States, joined Dec 2000, 2290 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 369 times:

The info I have just says "Polar Byrd II"; SAA Boeing 747-400.

The Airways mag with the info shows a pic of an SAA 744.....it appears to be ZS-SAV.....but this might not be correct............

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Whether this is the exact craft that will operate the pole-to-pole flight, I don't know for sure.
But it DOES say a 744 for sure.




User currently offlineLAX From United States, joined Dec 2000, 2290 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 340 times:

Some additional interesting data.......................

Polar Byrd II Flight Background......................

On November 17-19, 2001, a specially chartered South African Airways Boeing 747-444 operated by Concorde Spirit Tours will fly from New York / JFK to Rio Gallegos, Argentina / RGL; then continue over the South Pole to Perth, Australia / PER; then continue on to Beijing, China / PEK; then over Russian airspace en route to the North Pole; then back to New York / JFK. This flight will attempt to break the old record set on October 28-30, 1977 by 2 hours 56 minutes. This will be only the fourth time in history that a commercial jet aircraft has crossed Antarctica. There will be approximately 237 passengers on the flight of "POLAR BYRD II", including Lt. General Thomas P. Stafford, USAF (Ret.), who was the APOLLO X and APOLLO-SOYUZ mission commander. General Stafford holds the all-time world air speed record for circumnavigating the Earth in a spacecraft--APOLLO X--at 24,791.4 miles per hour. General Stafford will be hosting the flight.

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Check out www.over-both-poles.com for more info.





User currently offlineGOT From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 1887 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 322 times:

Could be nice to be onboard but it's a bit to expensive for me Big grin.

GOT


Just like birdwatching - without having to be so damned quiet!
User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 307 times:

LAX,

Indeed I would thoroughly relish the exprience of being able to crew one of these flights....but I have quite a way to go before I am even able to fly commercially! Big grin

My guess is that 4 aircrew would be rostered, per segment (2 crew + 2 relief), making a total of 16, plus perhaps an extra 2-4 as backup. Just a wild guess.

Thanks for the link!

Rgds,
CP

User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 303 times:

I'm about $7494.32 short of the $7495 price so I guess that counts me out.

User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 297 times:

On the other hand, I think 16 pilots are too many.....anyone know how many pilots are likely to be rostered....+-8?

Rgds,
CP

User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 284 times:

for for 56 hours you need about 5 crews (10 pilots) since you can have one crew do 8h then 2 others do 8 each then the first crew can go again.

User currently offlineTony Lu From United States, joined Sep 2000, 526 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 273 times:

I know. I saw a ad on it on the Airways Mag July 2001.

Tony Lu Big grin Big grin

User currently offlineGolfhaus From United States, joined Aug 2000, 132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 262 times:

Maybe I'll try to ID90 on it.  Big grin

User currently offlineLAX From United States, joined Dec 2000, 2290 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 243 times:

Thanks Capt.Picard.  Smile

User currently offline757PF From United States, joined May 2001, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 226 times:

Sounds like fun!!

Who wants to go??

Only $14,000? I'll take 2 tickets!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 221 times:
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I think SAA has nothing to do with this...they are merely supplying the aircraft and crews, but I dont think they came up with the idea...its just a charter...the flight isnt even going to South Africa...for all I know they could have chartered a 744 from UA or BA or SQ for example...

Just my $ .02. (only $7499.98 to go)

Greg


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User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 217 times:

Hell any SAA employ's here. Walk up and try to Nonrev or ID 90 on it.

User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 217 times:

Any pilots in JFK. Try to jumpseat on the thing.

User currently offline757pf From United States, joined May 2001, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 205 times:

You could rack up some serious flyer miles on this trip, eh?

Who can afford it, though?

Too bad...... Sad

User currently offlineLAX From United States, joined Dec 2000, 2290 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 192 times:

Sounds like fun.

But a little beyond my budget.  Sad

User currently offlineRayChuang From United States, joined Jun 2000, 6899 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 176 times:

I think SA will probably break the record.

But with the 8,000-plus nautical mile range of the 777-200LR and A345, wanna bet that either Boeing or Airbus will try to break this record again since it will need even less stops?

User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 172 times:

airbus should do it in that A340 with the special fuel that they used for the france to Australia flight.

User currently offline757pf From United States, joined May 2001, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 157 times:

GO SAA!!!


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States, joined Jun 2000, 6899 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 145 times:

ILOVEA340,

I think Airbus might just try to break that record with the A345 prototype probably in 2003.  Smile With a smaller passenger load and substitute that for extra fuel, the A345 might be able to fly 9,200-9,300 nautical miles before a fuel stop, which means it might be able to fly the route that SA will attempt but with very likely one or two fewer fuel stops.

User currently offlineLax From United States, joined Dec 2000, 2290 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 130 times:

Would love to take this journey!!

Wouldn't you?

(Anybody got a spare $14,000.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy)

Maybe it'll be one of these 744's............