Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

qf789 · Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:47 am

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qf789 · Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:03 pm

China Eastern 789 B-220D returns to PAE after painting at PDX (5 Jan)

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/13 ... 99650?s=20

qf789 · Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:37 am

American Airlines 788 LN1075 N878BG returns to PAE after storage at PDX (6 Jan)

http://www.paineairport.com/kpae19005t.htm

qf789 · Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:47 am

Aeromexico 789 XA-RRR B1 flight PAE-PAE (13 Jan)

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/13 ... 76128?s=20

qf789 · Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:49 am

Singapore Airlines 787-10 9V-SCQ B1 flight CHS-CHS (12 Jan)

https://twitter.com/BoeingSCSpotter/sta ... 67588?s=20

qf789 · Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 pm

Qatar Airways 789 A7_BHM departing PAE for B1 flight then off to PDX for painting (20 Jan)

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/13 ... 44736?s=20

qf789 · Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:44 pm

Air Premia 789 HL8387 returns to PAE after a test flight (21 Jan)

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/13 ... 86178?s=20

RobK · Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:21 pm

To update the QR situation from the previous thread : viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1437921&start=250#p22556235

A7-BHH fully painted QR.
A7-BHI fully painted QR.
A7-BHJ painted white base coat fuselage/engines with QR tail.
A7-BHK ditto.
A7-BHL ditto.
A7-BHM ditto.

Could be that U-turn doesn't want the paint fading while in storage and they are due to go back to PDX for fully painting when he's ready to take delivery, or maybe they are ntu. It's interesting that the lastest AMX 787 got the same treatment at PDX just a few days ago and went to VCV all white, sans tail. Unlike QR, AMX doesn't strike me as being an airline that would be bothered about such things so I wonder if Avolon Aerospace are looking for a new customer to take this frame? Plus for what it's worth, no Mexican hex has been assigned to the frame either.

VCV now up to 37 brand new 787s in storage.

RobK · Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:11 am

I see that 787-8 N507BJ sneaked out of Springfield in early December for Waco TX. Waco has a paint facility there and was where all the Ministry of Finance frames got painted so I wonder if it's having a new paint job? It already got a corporate paint scheme at San Bernadino in autumn 2018. I note that its interior outfitting was completed in 2019 and was then offered for sale. Current & future owner unknown and I don't believe that the very old info about Korean Air VIP is valid. This was the frame which suffered a nose wheel collapse at Grant County.

Whilst on the subject of corporate 787 BBJs, I also note that the Kalair VP-BDA was never completed (or even started?) and has been for sale with an empty interior since January 2018. It's been at Basel since delivery.

N947BA 787-8 over at Victorville has been for sale via Comlux for many years with a "big price reduction" announced mid 2020, but still no interest it seems. It has a 18/244 business/economy interior apparently.

GSTBA · Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:46 am

British Airways 787-10 G-ZBLD was flown from Charleston to Victorville for storage

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-zbld

qf789 · Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:08 am

Korean Air 789 HL8390 B1 flight (28 Jan)

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/13 ... 44737?s=20

qf789 · Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:10 am

Qatar Airways 789 A7-BHM being ferried PAE-VCV (28 Jan)

https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/13 ... 37154?s=20

RobK · Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:27 am

Any of the PAE crowd see if JA927A came back from PDX fully painted or just a white blow-over like the AMX and QTRs have been getting there?

ADent · Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:55 am

Boeing 787 Issues ‘Mushroom’ With No Fix In View, Air Lease Says - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... lease-says

There’s just greater and greater levels of inspections going on,” Plueger, who heads the largest publicly traded U.S. aircraft lessor, said on an earnings call Monday. “As yet today, it’s difficult to see a definitive fix that is agreeable by the aviation authorities and all going forward.”

Some of the wide-body jets due to be delivered to Air Lease have been delayed more than 12 months, giving the Los Angeles-based company and its customers the right to bolt from their original contracts, Plueger said.

Any updates on 787? Air Lease doesn't seem optimistic.

Boeing CEO said last month that deliveries should resume in March, possibly late Feb.

T4thH · Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:00 pm

ADent wrote:
Boeing 787 Issues ‘Mushroom’ With No Fix In View, Air Lease Says - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... lease-says

There’s just greater and greater levels of inspections going on,” Plueger, who heads the largest publicly traded U.S. aircraft lessor, said on an earnings call Monday. “As yet today, it’s difficult to see a definitive fix that is agreeable by the aviation authorities and all going forward.”

Some of the wide-body jets due to be delivered to Air Lease have been delayed more than 12 months, giving the Los Angeles-based company and its customers the right to bolt from their original contracts, Plueger said.

Any updates on 787? Air Lease doesn't seem optimistic.

Boeing CEO said last month that deliveries should resume in March, possibly late Feb.

ALC has already cancelled 19 B737-8 MAX last year (5 and in Nov 14) and additional an option for 45 B737-8 MAX got expired, so is also gone. OK, they have said this January that possibly few (but not all) of the cancelled MAX orders will be renewed, when the deliveries will restart.

If ALC and others will now have the additional chance to cancel some of the B787 orders as delayed for more than one year....

Seems Boeing is hard working to produce as many whitetails as possible. And we shall not forget, again and again, it is Boeings fault.

Revelation · Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:56 pm

A tweet I found to be interesting from @LeehamNews:

On SpiritAero earnings call, leadership says Boeing not going to return to rate 14 on 787, goal is around 7/mo.

Ref: https://twitter.com/LeehamNews/status/1 ... 4722869250

Welcome to the brave new world!

oldJoe · Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:06 am

Revelation wrote:
A tweet I found to be interesting from @LeehamNews:

On SpiritAero earnings call, leadership says Boeing not going to return to rate 14 on 787, goal is around 7/mo.

Ref: https://twitter.com/LeehamNews/status/1 ... 4722869250

Welcome to the brave new world!

I wonder what the new brave world lookes like? A few month without any delivery is not promising to say at least ! What`s wrong there ?

Opus99 · Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:14 am

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... nger-delay

Deeper analysis here.

Boeing is asking suppliers to do a deep engineering analysis into non-conformities and rectify any issues they find at least spriit aerospace says so

Polot · Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:24 am

Revelation wrote:
A tweet I found to be interesting from @LeehamNews:

On SpiritAero earnings call, leadership says Boeing not going to return to rate 14 on 787, goal is around 7/mo.

Ref: https://twitter.com/LeehamNews/status/1 ... 4722869250

Welcome to the brave new world!

I think this was pretty much known when Boeing announced the 787 was going CHS only. Not sure what max rate that site is capable of but it is not rate 14, and Boeing obviously wouldn’t shut down PAE assembly just to reopen it a few months later.

ikolkyo · Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:35 am

Revelation wrote:
A tweet I found to be interesting from @LeehamNews:

On SpiritAero earnings call, leadership says Boeing not going to return to rate 14 on 787, goal is around 7/mo.

Ref: https://twitter.com/LeehamNews/status/1 ... 4722869250

Welcome to the brave new world!

Considering the fact that the 14 rate was with both Everett and CHS, it's not that surprising.

747classic · Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:11 am

The last Everett 787 roll-out !

The last Everett built 787, line 1095 for ANA, was moved out of the factory at 10 PM Local Time at Feb 26th 2021.
(seen in the back is line number 1057 for JAL, back in the factory for rework)

Original uploaded by Matt Cawby at twitter, see : https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/13 ... 9836946440

Melb94 · Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:04 pm

747classic wrote:
The last Everett 787 roll-out !

The last Everett built 787, line 1095 for ANA, was moved out of the factory at 10 PM Local Time at Feb 26th 2021.
(seen in the back is line number 1057 for JAL, back in the factory for rework)

Original uploaded by Matt Cawby at twitter, see : https://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/13 ... 9836946440

I have a question, with all 787's being produced at Charleston, would Boeing still delivery some from Everett by flying them CHS-PAE before ferrying them to their new home base? Or would all new deliveries be conducted from Charleston?

RobK · Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:53 am

First Hawaiian out at CHS. LN 1097. N780HA.

https://twitter.com/BoeingSCSpotter/sta ... 1267591170

MileHFL400 · Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:56 am

It seems there were a few B1’s over the last few days, are we finally going to see some delivery activity ?

Opus99 · Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:06 am

MileHFL400 wrote:
It seems there were a few B1’s over the last few days, are we finally going to see some delivery activity ?

Boeing said March for restart but only 1 or 2. Let’s see if that materialises

maverick4002 · Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:33 pm

MileHFL400 wrote:
It seems there were a few B1’s over the last few days, are we finally going to see some delivery activity ?

What does B1 mean?

ikolkyo · Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:52 pm

maverick4002 wrote:
MileHFL400 wrote:
It seems there were a few B1’s over the last few days, are we finally going to see some delivery activity ?

What does B1 mean?

First Flight

Stitch · Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:44 pm

maverick4002 wrote:
What does B1 mean?

First Boeing Flight - so first flight of the airframe and the flight crew are all-Boeing.

Later on will come the C Flights - Customer Acceptance - where the PIC (Pilot in Command) is from the airline and a Boeing pilot is supporting.

RobK · Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:35 am

ikolkyo wrote:
maverick4002 wrote:
MileHFL400 wrote:
It seems there were a few B1’s over the last few days, are we finally going to see some delivery activity ?

What does B1 mean?

First Flight

A B1 can be a second flight if the first flight is cut short due to tech issues.

RobK · Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:17 am

End of an era. The final PAE built 787 takes to the air, for Atlantis Aviation : http://kpae.blogspot.com/2021/03/paine-field-march-16.html

qf789 · Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:45 pm

The first 789 for Hawaiian has rolled out of paint at CHS

https://twitter.com/BoeingSCSpotter/sta ... 84609?s=20

Opus99 · Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:57 am

Deliveries to resume shortly indeed.

Air Premia 787-9 out of PAE had a C1 flight yesterday

United 787-9 out of CHS had a C4 flight yesterday

TropicalSky · Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:28 pm

she's a beauty

qf789 wrote:
The first 789 for Hawaiian has rolled out of paint at CHS

https://twitter.com/BoeingSCSpotter/sta ... 84609?s=20

Sooner787 · Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:59 pm

I thought Hawaiian had deferred their 787 deliveries for a couple years?
Doesn't make sense to paint their 1st frame in full colors if she'll be
spending the next couple of years at VCV ?

Scotron12 · Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:56 am

Sooner787 wrote:
I thought Hawaiian had deferred their 787 deliveries for a couple years?
Doesn't make sense to paint their 1st frame in full colors if she'll be
spending the next couple of years at VCV ?

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... 9-delivery

Says first 787-9 in September 2022, continuing thru 2026. But article says EIS maybe 2023.

Opus99 · Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:14 pm

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... f=CMQY7IGK

Deliveries back online tomorrow. Boeing expects to deliver 2-3 787s this month. Nice to see the deliveries back online and hopefully somewhat of a closing chapter to this 787 debacle as more work within the supply chain continues!

inkjet7 · Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:00 pm

Opus99 wrote:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-25/boeing-poised-to-resume-787-deliveries-after-five-month-drought?sref=CMQY7IGK

Deliveries back online tomorrow. Boeing expects to deliver 2-3 787s this month.

Maybe PH-BKH, PH-BKI and N873BB (AA)?

Detroit313 · Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:03 pm

Does anyone know how many 787 American Airlines is supposed to get in 2021?

Polot · Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:12 pm

Detroit313 wrote:
Does anyone know how many 787 American Airlines is supposed to get in 2021?

From AA’s 10-k filed in February:

2021-19
2022-0
2023-6
2024-6
2025-8
2026+-5

Devin · Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:14 pm

inkjet7 wrote:
Opus99 wrote:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-25/boeing-poised-to-resume-787-deliveries-after-five-month-drought?sref=CMQY7IGK

Deliveries back online tomorrow. Boeing expects to deliver 2-3 787s this month.

Maybe PH-BKH, PH-BKI and N873BB (AA)?

United -9 N29985 is going to SFO tmr as UA2707. I will try and get pictures. PH-BKH and PH-BKI are still looking pretty lifeless.

Opus99 · Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:21 pm

Devin wrote:
inkjet7 wrote:
Opus99 wrote:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-25/boeing-poised-to-resume-787-deliveries-after-five-month-drought?sref=CMQY7IGK

Deliveries back online tomorrow. Boeing expects to deliver 2-3 787s this month.

Maybe PH-BKH, PH-BKI and N873BB (AA)?

United -9 N29985 is going to SFO tmr as UA2707. I will try and get pictures. PH-BKH and PH-BKI are still looking pretty lifeless.

Yeah I think after that will be an Air Premia from Everett. Currently on this second customer flight

inkjet7 · Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:31 am

Devin wrote:
United -9 N29985 is going to SFO tmr as UA2707. I will try and get pictures. PH-BKH and PH-BKI are still looking pretty lifeless.

Maybe KLM was too busy accepting two 77W's.

Opus99 · Sat Mar 27, 2021 4:56 pm

N29985 on its way home!

Flasheart61 · Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:59 pm

Does anyone know why the pictures of allegedly the first Hawaiian B787 taken at CHS have dissappeared? Perhaps someone stepped out of line and upset the Gods!
Thanks

atcsundevil · Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:51 am

Flasheart61 wrote:
Does anyone know why the pictures of allegedly the first Hawaiian B787 taken at CHS have dissappeared? Perhaps someone stepped out of line and upset the Gods!
Thanks

It looks like the Tweet was deleted, so it broke the embedded images posted by qf789.

qf789 wrote:
The first 789 for Hawaiian has rolled out of paint at CHS

Any idea if the pics can be found elsewhere?

Devin · Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:51 pm

Flasheart61 wrote:
Does anyone know why the pictures of allegedly the first Hawaiian B787 taken at CHS have dissappeared? Perhaps someone stepped out of line and upset the Gods!
Thanks

I had to take them down because of some issues with Boeing.

Devin · Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:52 pm

atcsundevil wrote:
Flasheart61 wrote:
Does anyone know why the pictures of allegedly the first Hawaiian B787 taken at CHS have dissappeared? Perhaps someone stepped out of line and upset the Gods!
Thanks

It looks like the Tweet was deleted, so it broke the embedded images posted by qf789.

qf789 wrote:
The first 789 for Hawaiian has rolled out of paint at CHS

Any idea if the pics can be found elsewhere?

I have my own image but I will not share it. I will wait for its B1 flight and then I will upload it.

Antaras · Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:55 pm

Devin wrote:
atcsundevil wrote:
Flasheart61 wrote:
Does anyone know why the pictures of allegedly the first Hawaiian B787 taken at CHS have dissappeared? Perhaps someone stepped out of line and upset the Gods!
Thanks

It looks like the Tweet was deleted, so it broke the embedded images posted by qf789.

qf789 wrote:
The first 789 for Hawaiian has rolled out of paint at CHS

Any idea if the pics can be found elsewhere?

I have my own image but I will not share it. I will wait for its B1 flight and then I will upload it.

How many Vietnam Airlines B787-10s are spotted at CHS? Except 2 airframes flew to other airport for storage, there is at least one lotus-tail airframe being assembled in CHS, right?

Devin · Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:23 am

Antaras wrote:
Devin wrote:
atcsundevil wrote:
It looks like the Tweet was deleted, so it broke the embedded images posted by qf789.

Any idea if the pics can be found elsewhere?

I have my own image but I will not share it. I will wait for its B1 flight and then I will upload it.

How many Vietnam Airlines B787-10s are spotted at CHS? Except 2 airframes flew to other airport for storage, there is at least one lotus-tail airframe being assembled in CHS, right?

VN-A877 did B1 today, should be going to VCV tomorrow or day after. I don’t know how many but there‘s a few more Vietnam coming. You could check the 787 tables

Antaras · Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:35 am

Devin wrote:
Antaras wrote:
Devin wrote:

I have my own image but I will not share it. I will wait for its B1 flight and then I will upload it.

How many Vietnam Airlines B787-10s are spotted at CHS? Except 2 airframes flew to other airport for storage, there is at least one lotus-tail airframe being assembled in CHS, right?

VN-A877 did B1 today, should be going to VCV tomorrow or day after. I don’t know how many but there‘s a few more Vietnam coming. You could check the 787 tables

After VN-A877 there will be only one VN-B78X left. It would be VN-A878, L/N 1104.
Thank you for your information!

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